The people who loudly cry about “gun control” are the same people who demonize police when the enforce gun control laws. The hypocrisy is maddening.
^^^ THIS. A THOUSAND TIMES THIS. Thank you sir.
Allow me to also add this:
The “police only react to crimes, not prevent them” crowd doesn’t seem to realize that…when cops get a felon & his illegal gun off the streets, they are indeed preventing him from committing much more serious crimes: armed robbery, ADW, even homicide. Unfortunately, such “prevention” can seldom if ever be quantified and documented — hence the aforementioned flawed claim continues to persist.
Excellent post, and 100% accurate.... There could certainly be some tactical quibbles -- watching the bodycam, I was immediately concerned with possible friendly fire, as there looked like there could be some possible crossfire.... But I wasn't there. And that does not impact the legality of the cops' actions. The stop was legit, as was the response.... And what the media is conveniently not mentioning: the shot cop is reportedly black himself, undermining the narrative they're trying for.... Particularly egregious on this has been the Washington Post. Their reporting on this incident was shameful: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/04/10/dexter-reed-shooting-video-chicago-police/
Our police family has just endured the exact same situation in Dane County Wisconsin. The corrupt, arrogant, condescending, morally bankrupt District Attorney turned the law upside down and charged our 31-year law enforcement veteran with "endangering public safety" in an officer involved shooting. A common-sense jury of 12 good people took 15 minutes to unanimously acquit. Immediately after, this DA swiftly exited the courtroom in a slimy, slithering, rodent-like fashion to avoid accountability by the assembled law supporters. Hopefully, this fall; via the voters' booth, the "community activists" that masquerade as "progressives" will re-assess their relationship with this hypocritical "chief elected law enforcement official of the county" and send this compromised DA "a-pakkin"down da road" !!
I absolutely agree that this is a protected stop, supported by the Supreme Court ruling in Whren v US.
This was a Tactical Unit tasked with responding to violent crime and violent criminals and one of the tools in their toolbox is the pretextual stop. The courts rule that is long as the original stop was for a valid and legal reason then the officers original intention for the stop is immaterial. Officers are not required to overlook a brake light or a tail light or a tag light or a seat belt violation just because they believe the suspect might be up to something else.
In Pennsylvania versus Mimms the courts decided that once a vehicle is legally stopped as this one was, the occupant is legally detained for the purposes of the stop and law enforcement can control that person's movement, ordering them to stay in or exit the vehicle.
Lastly, in Plumhoff v Rickard the courts decided that the number of rounds fired at a criminal is immaterial as long as the reason for the use of force was objectively reasonable to begin with and I would say that a suspect shooting at a police officer and in fact shooting a police officer makes return fire reasonable and justified under the Graham standard.
My favorite part of this whole thing was the mother dressed like some type of clown or a character from Clockwork Orange doing her fake fainting routine in front of the cameras. Seriously? Your child has just been killed, shot multiple times by police and you show up on camera with your hair bright orange, a stupid derby hat and bug-eyed sunglasses and you whine incoherently and then pretend to faint.
Dexter Reed tried to murder a police officer. He successfully committed an aggravated battery on a law enforcement officer with a firearm. Another excellent post DC!
The people who loudly cry about “gun control” are the same people who demonize police when the enforce gun control laws. The hypocrisy is maddening.
^^^ THIS. A THOUSAND TIMES THIS. Thank you sir.
Allow me to also add this:
The “police only react to crimes, not prevent them” crowd doesn’t seem to realize that…when cops get a felon & his illegal gun off the streets, they are indeed preventing him from committing much more serious crimes: armed robbery, ADW, even homicide. Unfortunately, such “prevention” can seldom if ever be quantified and documented — hence the aforementioned flawed claim continues to persist.
Excellent post, and 100% accurate.... There could certainly be some tactical quibbles -- watching the bodycam, I was immediately concerned with possible friendly fire, as there looked like there could be some possible crossfire.... But I wasn't there. And that does not impact the legality of the cops' actions. The stop was legit, as was the response.... And what the media is conveniently not mentioning: the shot cop is reportedly black himself, undermining the narrative they're trying for.... Particularly egregious on this has been the Washington Post. Their reporting on this incident was shameful: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2024/04/10/dexter-reed-shooting-video-chicago-police/
Our police family has just endured the exact same situation in Dane County Wisconsin. The corrupt, arrogant, condescending, morally bankrupt District Attorney turned the law upside down and charged our 31-year law enforcement veteran with "endangering public safety" in an officer involved shooting. A common-sense jury of 12 good people took 15 minutes to unanimously acquit. Immediately after, this DA swiftly exited the courtroom in a slimy, slithering, rodent-like fashion to avoid accountability by the assembled law supporters. Hopefully, this fall; via the voters' booth, the "community activists" that masquerade as "progressives" will re-assess their relationship with this hypocritical "chief elected law enforcement official of the county" and send this compromised DA "a-pakkin"down da road" !!
I absolutely agree that this is a protected stop, supported by the Supreme Court ruling in Whren v US.
This was a Tactical Unit tasked with responding to violent crime and violent criminals and one of the tools in their toolbox is the pretextual stop. The courts rule that is long as the original stop was for a valid and legal reason then the officers original intention for the stop is immaterial. Officers are not required to overlook a brake light or a tail light or a tag light or a seat belt violation just because they believe the suspect might be up to something else.
In Pennsylvania versus Mimms the courts decided that once a vehicle is legally stopped as this one was, the occupant is legally detained for the purposes of the stop and law enforcement can control that person's movement, ordering them to stay in or exit the vehicle.
Lastly, in Plumhoff v Rickard the courts decided that the number of rounds fired at a criminal is immaterial as long as the reason for the use of force was objectively reasonable to begin with and I would say that a suspect shooting at a police officer and in fact shooting a police officer makes return fire reasonable and justified under the Graham standard.
My favorite part of this whole thing was the mother dressed like some type of clown or a character from Clockwork Orange doing her fake fainting routine in front of the cameras. Seriously? Your child has just been killed, shot multiple times by police and you show up on camera with your hair bright orange, a stupid derby hat and bug-eyed sunglasses and you whine incoherently and then pretend to faint.
Dexter Reed tried to murder a police officer. He successfully committed an aggravated battery on a law enforcement officer with a firearm. Another excellent post DC!