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Chris Noeller's avatar

Great analysis! I couldn’t agree more. The criticism that we should just walk away is the most frustrating. We are paid to enforce the law. If resistance means we back down we will never take anyone into custody. It will be like the dramatic increase in failure to yields that we now experience with the restrictive pursuit policies in place. Our society will be even more of a disaster with crime if cops walked away every time someone resists arrest. This is tragic, but Mr Clarke made choices. Deescalation only works if both parties want it to, it’s not just LE’s job to deescalate.

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G. Lanier's avatar

If you do this job long enough you're going to run into this person and maybe more than once. You're going to deal with the guy who regardless of his size, (and in this case you obviously had a very large man) who is unnaturally strong and resistant to less lethal devices and sometimes even to strikes from Impact weapons and fist hands and feet. I was involved in several during my career, one of them where seven officers were unable to control the subject and multiple activations of the taser were completely ineffective. I say this to illustrate that I've been there, I've done that.

I understand that you don't like the criticism of the officers physical abilities but I'm sorry, I didn't see any physical abilities. At some point they needed to try and take this guy to the ground and in my opinion from the comfort of my couch, they waited far too long and when they did physically engage it was one officer instead of the three or four who were on scene. One officer was trying to control this huge mentally unstable subject while the rest of them stood around. Would a group of officers have been successful where one failed? We'll never know now.

However, there's something that I've noticed over the last five or six years and that is officers seem to no longer "cuff under power" .

As you stated in your breakdown, one of the activations of the taser seem to work as it should have, locking up the neuromuscular system of the subject allowing an officer to knock him to the ground. When that cycle of the taser ended the officers didn't immediately fire another set of darts or continue the activation so that the suspect could be handcuffed while he was still locked up. This was something that my agency used to train for and as a former excited delirium instructor, that's what we taught when dealing with people who were manic and uncontrollable. But my issue is something that has been an issue in law enforcement for decades if not longer and that is officers lack of physical skill when it comes to dealing with a subject particularly when they're on the ground. I am not a big advocate of jiu-jitsu as the main focus, but rather a well-rounded training routine that involves stand up, take down and then ground control.

I'm not trying to slam these officers but this is the type of thing that we need to discuss after an incident goes bad and determine whether something was done wrong and if so what can we do to correct it, determine if something was done right and determine how we can focus on that, or determine if something else should have been done and figure out a way to incorporate that into the training. There shouldn't necessarily be any type of punishment or condemnation but rather decisions on what can be done better in the future and how do we train for that and how do we ingrain that in the officers. Like it or not, every critical incident particularly when a life is taken needs to be broken down after the fact, every single aspect of the incident looked at and inspected and decisions made on what can be done differently, better or what shouldn't be done. That's how police work has been improving their tactics forever.

Now, all of that being said I absolutely agree that this was a 100% Justified use of force by the officers. Regardless of their inability to physically restrain this subject which we're not always going to be able to do, the officers tried everything to deescalate and it was the subject himself who decided he would not be de-escalated. Given the totality of the circumstances, when a large, aggressive and obviously mentally unstable subject who's been able to withstand bean bag rounds, multiple taser discharges, pepper spray and physical restraint charges at you and reaches for your firearm, you have to make the decision, and by the way I made my decision years and years ago, that if a subject charged at me while my gun was drawn then I would have to assume that his reasoning was to take my gun and use it against me, that I would in fact do exactly what this officer did. Now let's hope that the agency and the district attorney supports the officers in this obviously Justified use of force and that the agency uses this incident as a training scenario to fix any problems that they deem were evident during this situation.

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